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. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and tax cuts and auto bailout and those are big issues that got really heated between joe biden and paul ryan at last night's vice presidential debate so i immediately thoughthe person i would have to call on this to fact check it would be christine romans and she was available. thank you. so here's the deal. it just stands to reason that they both seem to say something with such confirmation in their voices and it's hard to say how this can be different. >> it's politics, my friend. talk taxes because i keep hearing this 20% across the board tax cut and then i hear the counterclaim, you can't pay for that. the math doesn't work. >> you can't make the math work. >> we have looked into this and the tax policy center says you can't make the math work. paul ryan's claim that you can cut it 20% across the board and keep it intact all of the while keeping it neutral and it says given the information available that we have about their plans is just not possible to cut that tax as much as
. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and tax cuts and auto bailout and those are big issues that got really heated between joe biden and paul ryan at last night's vice presidential debate so i immediately thoughthe person i would have to call on this to fact check it would be christine romans and she was available. thank you. so here's the deal. it just stands to reason that they both seem to say something with such confirmation...
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kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think getting in his face was just the right medicine last night. >> now, let me ask the big picture political question, dana, and i want margie to weigh in as well. the democratic base for mr. b biden or did it just help ril up the base? >> it did clearly energyize the base. people are asking does that turn off independents or undecideds. i think even if it did that to some extent, what needed to be done was the reverse, the narrative that had been in place since a week ago that the democrats were back on their heels on the defensive. joe biden was not on the defensive last night. he
kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think getting in his face was...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible.
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans...
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senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator you are no jack kennedy. >> bill: oh, stab -- stick the knife in. but of course quayle ended up becoming vice president. here is jay calling from atlanta, georgia. how, what did you think? >> caller: good morning, biden came in like a professional fighter. he was armed with facts. he was talking about the car industry and how ryan and the republicans have made a request for stimulus out of one side of your mouth and that's the facts, ping, bang. i mean give me a break. i just wish that biden had a chance to talk about that false lies that they was saying that the president has raised taxes on the middle class. he hasn't raised any taxes. >> bill: he cut taxes on the middle class. i agree, jay, he hit them on every point. and i love when paul ryan's attack of the stimulus is not working, and biden said look at this guy, he sent me two letters requesting money. and ryan had to admit, yeah i did that but it was just on behalf of my constituents. biden was right on top of that one
senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator you are no jack kennedy. >> bill: oh, stab -- stick the knife in. but of course quayle ended up becoming vice president. here is jay calling from atlanta, georgia. how, what did you think? >> caller: good morning, biden came in like a professional fighter. he was armed with facts. he was talking about the car industry and how ryan and the republicans have made a request for stimulus...
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kennedy, i knew jack kennedy, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> now here's an object lesson for joe biden in a positive sense. eight years ago, dick cheney sat down against john edwards and he helped george w. bush stop the bleeding from bush's poor debate against john kerry. here's how that went. >> your hometown newspaper has taken to calling you senator gone. you've got one of the worst attendance records in the united states senate. the first time i ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight. >> that was a complete distortion of my record. i know that won't come as a shock. it's amazing to hear him criticize my record or john kerry's. >> 30 seconds. >> i think his record speaks for itself and frankly it's not very distinguished. >> so what you have there is an older, experienced vice president, adopting just the right tone of kunds sencion to a younger rival. joe biden will try to do that against paul ryan tonight, guys. >> man, watching those clips -- >> gets us ready. >> spicy already. thank you
kennedy, i knew jack kennedy, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> now here's an object lesson for joe biden in a positive sense. eight years ago, dick cheney sat down against john edwards and he helped george w. bush stop the bleeding from bush's poor debate against john kerry. here's how that went. >> your hometown newspaper has taken to calling you senator gone. you've got one of the worst attendance records in the united states senate. the first...
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president kennedy got a surprise mention with joe biden's sarcastic outburst, now you're jack kennedy sparking the tweets at 58,000 per minute. the debate continued. massive questions on a crucial issue. luckily, brian williams was able to clear up the issue about the lapel pins. >> people were asking, not only is the flag larger, what is the symbol in the middle of field stripes. it's the u.s. secret service pin. they hand it out to friends and protectees. >> before the debate, "time" magazine released these photos. it triggered what was called a dumbbell debate. >>> a search on google images with the phrase completely wrong brings up mitt romney. google says there's no partisan politics here. he used the phrase about his 47% comments. >>> california congressman was debating when things got testy. the rhetoric heated up and sherman got physical. before things escalated into a wrestling match, a police officer stepped in and the debate wrapped up with no injuries. that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. here is your "first look" of how wall street is going to close. the dow cl
president kennedy got a surprise mention with joe biden's sarcastic outburst, now you're jack kennedy sparking the tweets at 58,000 per minute. the debate continued. massive questions on a crucial issue. luckily, brian williams was able to clear up the issue about the lapel pins. >> people were asking, not only is the flag larger, what is the symbol in the middle of field stripes. it's the u.s. secret service pin. they hand it out to friends and protectees. >> before the debate,...
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jack kennedy lowers tax rates and -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> joining us now here in new york is salon.com's joan walsh and in washington michael scherer white house correspondent for "time." >> did i not know jack kennedy. he was not a friend of mine but i feel confident in saying paul ryan is no jack kennedy. would you agree? >> i would agree with that. and he walked right into that. he wahanded that to joe biden a it was hilarious. michael, my friend, literally my friend, not in the joe biden sense, michael is my friend, is in the beltway, i don't mean to dispaur raj beltway reporters, but paul ryan has been given such a pass. he has a reputation for being a worngy guy, good at the numbers. his numbers have never added up. he has this reputation for being a deficit hawk. as joe biden said he voted for the wars, for the new medicare -- >> the prescription drug benefit. >> he voted -- >> the bush tax cuts. >> the bush tax cuts, all of the bush budgets. he voted for a bush stimulus. in addition to voting against obama stimulus but asking for money, he voted for bush stimulus and
jack kennedy lowers tax rates and -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> joining us now here in new york is salon.com's joan walsh and in washington michael scherer white house correspondent for "time." >> did i not know jack kennedy. he was not a friend of mine but i feel confident in saying paul ryan is no jack kennedy. would you agree? >> i would agree with that. and he walked right into that. he wahanded that to joe biden a it was hilarious. michael, my friend,...
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kennedy. that serve came back at him right away. >> there was someone who tweeted no republican vice-presidential candidate should ever mention jack kennedy. >> want to get reaction from our man on the ground. john harwood is in danville, kentucky as candidates and their families gather on stage. what did you think? >> i thought paul ryan did well. i thought he held his own. when the discussion did get to the tax issue, we had a little bit of capsule what happened in this debate. you had paul ryan embracing the across the board tax cut mitt romney is running on. he was pressed by martha, who did an excellent job exactly specifically you do to pay for that tax cut, totally evaded that. what happened was as happened on other issues, joe biden got frustrated. you saw biden, he variously was laughing, smiling, got angry at times. i think there were times at which that demeanor did not serve him well. ryan did not get flustered. did have some republican political strategists who i talked to during
kennedy. that serve came back at him right away. >> there was someone who tweeted no republican vice-presidential candidate should ever mention jack kennedy. >> want to get reaction from our man on the ground. john harwood is in danville, kentucky as candidates and their families gather on stage. what did you think? >> i thought paul ryan did well. i thought he held his own. when the discussion did get to the tax issue, we had a little bit of capsule what happened in this...
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. >>> senator, i served with jack kennedy, i knew jack kennedy, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> wow. welcome back to "hardball." live from center college in danville, kentucky, site of tonight's big vice presidential debate. for some democrats legitimate frustration with the president's performance at loost week's debate turned into something like panic this week as a number of national polls show the president in a very tight race, even losing in some cases to mitt romney. but in the key battleground states that will decide the election, the numbers tell a somewhat different story so far. according to the latest nbc news/"wall street journal"/maris polls in ohio, florida, and virginia, romney has improved his standing only slightly. in virginia, romney has a one-point advantage. last week the president was up two in that count. in florida the president is up by one. that's not very much. and in ohio the president is up by six points, still solid there. here might be the reason why. in all three states vast majorities say their minds were made
. >>> senator, i served with jack kennedy, i knew jack kennedy, jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> wow. welcome back to "hardball." live from center college in danville, kentucky, site of tonight's big vice presidential debate. for some democrats legitimate frustration with the president's performance at loost week's debate turned into something like panic this week as a number of national polls show the president in a very tight...
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. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments, but hardly game-changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates, like this week's upcoming match-up between vice president biden and his gop challenger paul ryan, are a different animal. >> you need to be able to see that each vice presidential candidate has hit the standard of readiness. they'll be ready in an emergency in a national crisis to step into the oval office and to take the reins of the presidency. beyond that, in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there is a stark killing or stark catching moment, it rarely changes the course of the debate. >> donna brazile says the first rule here is to do no harm. >> in terms of substance, try not to break any new ground. this is an audition for 2016. this is about 2012, and the top of the ticket. >> i don't like a damn thing about him. >> biden, who participated in more than 20 debates and forums in the 2008 campaign, sai
. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments, but hardly game-changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates, like this week's upcoming match-up between vice president biden and his gop challenger paul ryan, are a different animal. >> you need to be able to see that each vice presidential candidate has hit the standard of readiness. they'll be ready in...
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. >> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> it can be a tough line for a washington veteran to walk, touting experience without talking down to an opponent. something that george h.w. bush failed at during his 1984 debate with geraldine ferraro. >> let me help you with the difference, miss ferraro, between iran and the embassy in lebanon. >> geraldine ferraro, the first ever female vp candidate, shot back with this. >> let me just say, first of all, that i almost resent, vice president bush, your patronizing attitude that you have to teach me about foreign policy. >> sometime just one line can cement the public's view of a candidate. ross perot's running mate, admiral james stockdale, initially got laughs for this opening line. >> who am i? why am i here? >> he ended up the butt of jokes for years to come. then there was bob dole's nasty tone during the '76 debate that helped shape a long-lasting negative image for the future nominee for president. >> i figured out the other day, if we added
. >> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> it can be a tough line for a washington veteran to walk, touting experience without talking down to an opponent. something that george h.w. bush failed at during his 1984 debate with geraldine ferraro. >> let me help you with the difference, miss ferraro, between iran and the embassy in lebanon. >> geraldine ferraro, the first ever female...
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. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin? >> you did ask for stimulus money, right? >> on two occasions, we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter, saying the reason we need this, it will create growth and jobs. his words. >> i want to move on here to medicare entitlements. i think we've gone over this quite enough. >> by the way -- >> reporter: but the night would not be complete without a bidism. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> why is that? >> because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. we irish call it malarkey. >> reporter: they were very feisty. all right. we've got joe tuman. and let's talk about body language a little bit. we talked about the words first. you saw the vice
. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin? >> you did ask for stimulus money, right? >> on two occasions, we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter, saying the reason we need this, it will...
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kennedy lowered rated -- >> oh now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> one of the astounding things about this whole thing, and the vice president make the point last night but romney in the first debate said he is not going to cut taxes on people. they will pay the same amount if that is it where is his job program? if he is not going to reduce their taxes, where is his job program? he doesn't have one. >> stephanie: yeah. >> this whole thing about raising taxes on small business banks is hysterical. ryan said 53% of income would fall under small business income. but 53% of small business income is earned by 3% of the businesses. they are not small businesses. they are very profitable organizations. >> stephanie: exactly. i couldn't be happier -- what -- obviously you have been talking to a lot of people since the debate. what was your sense? >> i thought everybody on our side thought it was a home run. and i'm not the first one to say this, but the fact that the republican were harping on joe being ruud and smiling too much understand that they lost on substance substantially. the
kennedy lowered rated -- >> oh now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> one of the astounding things about this whole thing, and the vice president make the point last night but romney in the first debate said he is not going to cut taxes on people. they will pay the same amount if that is it where is his job program? if he is not going to reduce their taxes, where is his job program? he doesn't have one. >> stephanie: yeah. >> this whole thing about raising taxes on...
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. >> i served with jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> that was really uncalled for, senator. >> you call that trickle down, i call it niagra falls. >> senator dole, mr. kent would put the american economy in a barrel and send it over the falls. >> i can see my wife. and i think she's thinking i wish you would go out into the private sector. >> i'm going to try to help you do that. >> with all due respect in your plan barack obama's offered a clear plan. >> your plan is a white flag of surrender. >>> happening now, countdown to tonight's vice presidential debate. we're covering it like no other network. first, a cnn exclusive. paul ryan tells us about his preparations to go head-to-head with vice president joe biden. standby. also behind the scenes photos and new details from vice president biden's practice sessions. and new polls from the swing states are coming in. they show why tonight's debate is more crucial than ever for both men at the top of the ticket. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation
. >> i served with jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> that was really uncalled for, senator. >> you call that trickle down, i call it niagra falls. >> senator dole, mr. kent would put the american economy in a barrel and send it over the falls. >> i can see my wife. and i think she's thinking i wish you would go out into the private sector. >> i'm going to try to help you do that. >> with all due respect...
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. >> senator, i served with jack kennedy, i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> we're expecting that paul ryan's budget and the budget cuts, medicare reform, taxes, are going to be major issues tonight when the candidates who have been debating those very questions in separate stump speeches, now th
. >> senator, i served with jack kennedy, i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this...
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. >> jack kennedy increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> a battle of minds. congressman ryan and vice president widen go head to head in the first and only vice presidential decade. we dig into the facts and fiction ahead. >> malarkey complaining, laughless, shirtless, just a few of the top search items on google during last night's debate. we have more on the debate coming up this hour. >> shirtless. >> shirtless what, could be better than that. >> welcome back to "early start." >> it's friday, october 12th. there was plenty of passion and paul ryan and joe biden each got in a zinger or two but no knockout last nighin the vice presidential debate. nobody had a bad night and nobody was too polite, that's to be sure. joe biden was the aggressor and paul ryan looking like the calm, collected counterpuncher. >> and here's how america scored it. a cnn orc poll taken right after the debate showed 48% of the voters who watched thought ryan won and 44% favored pieden. that's a statistical tie. senior
. >> jack kennedy increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> a battle of minds. congressman ryan and vice president widen go head to head in the first and only vice presidential decade. we dig into the facts and fiction ahead. >> malarkey complaining, laughless, shirtless, just a few of the top search items on google during last night's debate. we have more on the debate coming up this hour. >> shirtless. >> shirtless what, could be...
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. >> i served with jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> that was really uncalled for, senator. >> all that trickle down, i call it niagra falls. >> senator dole and mr. kemp would put the the american economy and a barrel and send it over the falls. >> i see my wife and she's thinking i wish you would go in the private sec sor. zwl i'm going to try to help you do that. >> thinking of your plan, barack obama's offered a clear plan. >> your plan is a white flag of surrender. surrender. >> this is cnn. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> the vice presidential candidates, front and center tonight in a campaign that's very close once again. >> just 26 days before the election and we're seeing these debates tonight. >> a young gun republican appearing in his first national debate. >> we can turn this around. it is not too late to revive the american dream. >> an experienced democrat, returning to a familiar stage. >> they just have no credibility. it's not just what you say, it's what you don't. >> both
. >> i served with jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> that was really uncalled for, senator. >> all that trickle down, i call it niagra falls. >> senator dole and mr. kemp would put the the american economy and a barrel and send it over the falls. >> i see my wife and she's thinking i wish you would go in the private sec sor. zwl i'm going to try to help you do that. >> thinking of your plan, barack obama's...
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and for the record congressman ryan wasn't asserting he was any jack kennedy. it's really interesting to seat vice president go off the rails on this particular part of it. because this also was a real set back for president obama in the presidential debate. so i am not sure why he thought he would profit from it. congressman ryan was right. >> the class warfare thing is what they always go back to in times of distress. they think if they scare enough people that romney is all about preserving his own tax breaks and the regular people are going to get shafted. i'm looking at this fox news poll that came out midweek. and it turns out that 49% of those polled say they think the economy is improving. only 42% say it's getting worse. and then in the same poll it says that 42% say the economy is in fair shape while 41% say economic conditions are poor. okay. so, i don't really understand these numbers but apparently 49% of the people think things might not be great now but they are getting better. so, does that hurt romney's ability to make the case for his policies
and for the record congressman ryan wasn't asserting he was any jack kennedy. it's really interesting to seat vice president go off the rails on this particular part of it. because this also was a real set back for president obama in the presidential debate. so i am not sure why he thought he would profit from it. congressman ryan was right. >> the class warfare thing is what they always go back to in times of distress. they think if they scare enough people that romney is all about...
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>>> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> welcome back to "hardball," live from center college in danville, kentucky. what can we expect from joe biden tonight? democratic chris van hollen, he's been playing biden in the sparring matches. i have a whole list of things. will he bring out romney's positions an abortion and paul ryan's personhood, which criminalizes abortion. can biden deliver that, too? joining me right now is u.s. congressman chris van hollen who happens to be my congressman and my wife's, probably more importantly. and gentlemen, i'm going to start with you, sir, because you've been there. you know what we don't know. you know how prepared joe biden is. is he? >> he's ready to go. he's looking forward to tonight and he understands the stakes are high and he's looking forward to talking about the choices in this election. absolutely. >> it's faster, more punches are thrown. does he have a different role than he knows for running for pres
>>> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> welcome back to "hardball," live from center college in danville, kentucky. what can we expect from joe biden tonight? democratic chris van hollen, he's been playing biden in the sparring matches. i have a whole list of things. will he bring out romney's positions an abortion and paul ryan's personhood, which criminalizes abortion. can biden deliver that, too?...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and that is what most americans care about. and the former chairman of the council of economic advisors. nice to see you, austin. >> thank you, kbreta. >> greta: at the time tel me. were you surprised unemployment rate went down to 7.8%? is that a surprise. >> yes. it was a, if you look at data looks like it was an outlier there is a lot of variables on the numbers and it's bigger than i thought it would be. >> greta: is a number you're confident of? though you're surprised?. >> i would probably say some component of statistics. i won't be surprise fd it ticks up a little bit next month. the survey of people which is what the unemployment rate comes from has a job creation margin of error plus or minus 400,000 per month. anyone as i say, every month take a three-month average if you want to know how the job market is doing. >> greta: let me ask you about a three month average. this is what i said tonight. he said job growth in slept slower than in august. he said august slower than
jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and that is what most americans care about. and the former chairman of the council of economic advisors. nice to see you, austin. >> thank you, kbreta. >> greta: at the time tel me. were you surprised unemployment rate went down to 7.8%? is that a surprise. >> yes. it was a, if you look at data looks like it was an outlier there is a lot of variables on the numbers and it's bigger...
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. >>> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> part of why the stakes feel so high tonight is that incumbent presidents almost always lose to the candidate challenging them in their first debate. the exception to that is bill clinton beating dole in their first debate in '96. other than that every time the first debate has been a killer for the incokucumbent president. president carter lost to ronald reagan, president reagan lost his first debate to robert mondale. president bush lost his first debate to bill clinton and ross perot. next president bush lost his first debate to john kerry. so when president obama lost his first debate last week to his challenger, mitt romney, that outcome was totally in keeping with the sad, sad incumbent president tradition of getting creamed in their first debate. but what hat means for tonight is that the democrats are looking for a solid performance to try to stop the republican momentum, to try to quash the poll imbalance that romney and ryan have been enjoy
. >>> senator, i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> part of why the stakes feel so high tonight is that incumbent presidents almost always lose to the candidate challenging them in their first debate. the exception to that is bill clinton beating dole in their first debate in '96. other than that every time the first debate has been a killer for the incokucumbent president. president carter lost to...
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jack kennedy decreased tax growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> that's why these -- which if i'm not mistaken governor romney says we should continue. i may be mistaken. he changes his mind so often, i could be wrong. >> president obama has said he thought he was too polite in his debate with mitt romney. joe biden definitely did not play the polite card. biden offered up an aggressive attack on his challenger and roin delivered a spirit defense of conservative strategies proposed by the romney campaign. how several newspapers and w websites are describing the debate this morning. it was rapid fire. it was lively. simply put, it was hard to turn away from. i agree with that. maryland governor martin o'malley joins me now. good morning, mr. o'malley. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well, don. thank you. the vice president went out there and did what he needed to do and a lot of people are energized to see him on such an aggressive and needed calling out of the falsehoods and shell games that these other guys are proposing. >> i know you have som
jack kennedy decreased tax growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> that's why these -- which if i'm not mistaken governor romney says we should continue. i may be mistaken. he changes his mind so often, i could be wrong. >> president obama has said he thought he was too polite in his debate with mitt romney. joe biden definitely did not play the polite card. biden offered up an aggressive attack on his challenger and roin delivered a spirit defense of conservative strategies...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> but there was an under current of mutual respect and when it ended the two families joined them on stage. in the polls they were wondering if this man did enough to restore team obama's confidence. >> 10 years ago indonesia underwent the boly bombings many torturists from pretty much all over the world. survivors have been back to bomby to commemorate the anniversary. security was tight after they were warned of attacks. >> 10 years on. and the emotions are still raw. for some, the memorys are too much to bear. looking at the photos of those who died, australian and indonesiain' leaders stayed extremists tried to sew hatred between them, but failed. >> terrorists have killed and maimed thousands around the world but they will never sundayer or displace a single ideal. we will never forget all that we lost. we will hold fast to that which remains. to our determine nation as a free people to explore the world and unheld by fear. to defeat terrorism. >> this was a tragedy that affecte
. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> but there was an under current of mutual respect and when it ended the two families joined them on stage. in the polls they were wondering if this man did enough to restore team obama's confidence. >> 10 years ago indonesia underwent the boly bombings many torturists from pretty much all over the world. survivors have been back to bomby to commemorate the anniversary. security was tight after they were warned of attacks. >> 10 years on....
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kennedy when he was running for president and lloyd benson says, you're no jack kennedy. >> right. as the story goes, quale was warned not to make that comparison in his debate prep but for some reason it just stuck in his head as an effective tool but it blew up on him. >> and the funny thing is though, tamron, i talked to quale a couple of days ago. he said, i still benefitted the republican ticket in 1988 and in 1992 because i did what vice presidential candidates need to do in debatsz, not focus on the guy across the hall for me. yes, benson got a good line off on me, i focused on michael dukakis, bill clinton in 1992, and i think you can expect that paul ryan is going to do the same thing. >> john harwood, a big night. thank you so much for your time. i'll see you soon, john. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. stay with msnbc tonight with special primetime coverage of the vice presidential debate at 8:00 p.m. eastern. "the cycle" is up next. that ma. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle sou
kennedy when he was running for president and lloyd benson says, you're no jack kennedy. >> right. as the story goes, quale was warned not to make that comparison in his debate prep but for some reason it just stuck in his head as an effective tool but it blew up on him. >> and the funny thing is though, tamron, i talked to quale a couple of days ago. he said, i still benefitted the republican ticket in 1988 and in 1992 because i did what vice presidential candidates need to do in...
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i knew jack kennedy and you're not jack kennedy, but that turned well for mr. quayle. >> he became the vice president of the united states. didn't he? a not so strong debate performance. overshadowed, out-debated by the elder lloyd benson back in 1988. i remember it well. my first president's campaign. and yet george h.w. bush went on to win the election. not just win the election, but win 40 states. 40 of the 50 states, george h.w. bush won in 1988. if anyone tells you what they know is going to happen on november 6th, i'd roll your eyes. a lot to talk about. two passionate guys representing the two ends of america's political, ideological spectrum. however, romney and obama lead the ticket. that's who people vote for on election day. >> passion and zingers and sound bites aside, in a 24/7 news cycle and only a couple days away from a very important presidential debate. how much sticking power will tonight have? >> a great question. one of the thingses that happens out of debates. what moments get replayed and replayed and replayed, not only on television but
i knew jack kennedy and you're not jack kennedy, but that turned well for mr. quayle. >> he became the vice president of the united states. didn't he? a not so strong debate performance. overshadowed, out-debated by the elder lloyd benson back in 1988. i remember it well. my first president's campaign. and yet george h.w. bush went on to win the election. not just win the election, but win 40 states. 40 of the 50 states, george h.w. bush won in 1988. if anyone tells you what they know is...
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the answer is -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> now you're jack kennedy. more than 58,000 tweets were sent after the kennedy reference. one more thing, moderator martha raddatz, twitter followers increased from 6,000 to more than 20,000 during the debate. and join our conversation online. you can join me on twitter. i think i'm at 50,000 now and @newsnation. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is rudy. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the evening brings more pain. so, back to more pills. almost done, when... hang on. stan's doctor recommended aleve. it can keep pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is rudy. who switched to aleve. and two pills for a day free of pain. ♪ [ female announcer ] and try aleve for relief from tough headaches. >>> with the vp debate now over, here's the question. now what? politico writes it this way, quote, there's scant reason to believe a debate among vice presidential nominees can in any lasting
the answer is -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> now you're jack kennedy. more than 58,000 tweets were sent after the kennedy reference. one more thing, moderator martha raddatz, twitter followers increased from 6,000 to more than 20,000 during the debate. and join our conversation online. you can join me on twitter. i think i'm at 50,000 now and @newsnation. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is rudy. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's...
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kennedy-- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan-- >> pelley: there's the jack kennedy line from the vice presidential debate in which lloyd benson told dan quayle that he was no jack kennedy. but right there was a very good example where you could see the vice president's technique. he was stepping on ryan over and over. every time ryan got going on something, biden would laugh, step on him, cut him off, he was being very aggressive. >> he was like the guy in the barco lounger yelling at the tv while being involved in the debate itself which comes across, if you're trying to be the guy speaking to the middle class, that's the way it goes. but this question of math is quite crucial because this is-- as norah said, who do you trust when the hard math is being done. both the president and mitt romney have said we've got to schinch this budget in a time of scarcity. who is going to do that? who is going to be in charge of that when the hard cutting has it to get done? >> pelley: we have nancy cordes and jan crawford covering the romney and obama campaigns. and they're joining u
kennedy-- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan-- >> pelley: there's the jack kennedy line from the vice presidential debate in which lloyd benson told dan quayle that he was no jack kennedy. but right there was a very good example where you could see the vice president's technique. he was stepping on ryan over and over. every time ryan got going on something, biden would laugh, step on him, cut him off, he was being very aggressive. >> he was like the guy in...
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. >> now, you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: vice president joe biden and republican challenger, paul ryan, delivered stark difference on domestic and foreign policy. >> we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan went after president obama for his response to the u.s. consulate attack in libya. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. >> reporter: while biden challenged ryan's proposed changes to medicare. >> you are jeopardizing the program. you're changing the program from a guaranteed benefit. >> reporter: it was a more heated back and forth than the first presidential debate. and biden often laughed at ryan's arguments. >> joe biden understood tonight he had to go back out there and do what president obama failed to do last week. >> reporter: with the race st
. >> now, you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: vice president joe biden and republican challenger, paul ryan, delivered stark difference on domestic and foreign policy. >> we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income...